oevrall architecture -- Pythia addon? Pythia version? stage 1 -- do the Z' production weight, decay rate, decay angles what particles to use in finial state -- e+e-, t'b', Skands, vquarks? stage 2 -- really want a v-hadronization routine to avoid problems with expt QCD settings (GEANT) turn off strange quark in QCD-like showering/frag change masses of QCD hadrons consistently compute new v-hadron models internally [long way off] do independent fragmentation or QCD-like showering/fragmentation [while avoiding resonances at various charm thresholds etc] fragment a vquark-vsquark pair catch the gluons in a shower and make them massive remove the old LHA output version work with vhadrons written out as QNUMBERS or as existing Pythia particles [but avoid h0] -- check with ATLAS -- how does ATLAS plan to deal with new particles? -- ask Mrenna about plans for a standard? various input modes Stage 3a output: decay v-hadrons directly: challenges : QNUMBERS needed? [event record] decays inside detector [GEANT] Do we need to be able to write out all the vhadrons their numbers, masses, brnaching fractions ? Stage 3b output: full Pythia output underlying event correctly? read in versus run through start to finish